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Drummer’s Gig Checklist – 50 Essential Items

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  1. Hi Josue, yes you could substitute it out for another, but might be a bit awkward as you would probably have to get all new cables as the Alesis nitro cables all feed into the back of it using a parallel style connection. An alternative way would be to just connect the other pads to the computer separately using another drum module or drum trigger module, and you could just get the track in your DAW software to listen in to all MIDI connections instead of just selecting one MIDI channel.

  2. Hi Josue, if you can, I’d recommend using the Nitro Kit as a MIDI controller and triggering sounds from your PC via a drum VST (or even using something like an Ableton Drum Rack), you’ll have the potential to get far better sounds that way in comparison to the audio from the Nitro drum module.

  3. You’re welcome! By plugin I mean what people often refer to as VST plugins like so https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/best-drum-vst-plugins/ – (though if you’re using ProTools they will need to be in AAX format, not VST)!

  4. Hi Ben – not that I know of. I think the audio-over-USB on the TD-30 module only supports the master channel so that probably wouldn’t be any help. Maybe there’s a way of doing this that I’m not thinking of, but tbh, if you’re looking for that amount of multi-track recording then MIDI with plugins might be the way to go (and as a benefit… there are some great plugins out there that would sound better than the TD-30 anyway).

  5. Hey Stuart, if you are using Windows, have you installed drivers for the audio interface? If they are ASIO drivers are you selecting that input in Audacity and making sure volumes are at the right level there? Maybe try with a different free DAW (cakewalk,waveform) just to troubleshoot if you’re running out if ideas. Also… might be a silly question, but is the master volume on the audio interface set high? As it might be different to the headphone volume!

  6. Hi Calum, bass drum pads tend to be a bit more padded and also more suited to the sensitivity of a bass drum pedal. You technically could use a tom pad because in the majority of cases, they will use the same connections and send the same types of signals, but it’s probably not going to perform as well.

  7. Hey Ben, Tracktion waveform and cakewalk are both popular free DAWs. You could download both and see which one you prefer.

  8. Yes they will be heard on both. Generally it’s the exact same audio feed going out to the headphones and the amp.

  9. Hi Tomi, yes it’s possible to do this. In this case, you would hook your headphones to your audio interface or computer and listen from there.

  10. Hi James, I’m glad you found the post useful! I haven’t heard anything about a newer Octapad model. Roland are way slower at bringing out new pads in comparison to their release cycles for vdrum kits. It’s difficult to know, but you potentially could be waiting a long time before they bring anything new out. It’s been nearly 4 years since they brought out the ‘special edition’ of the SPD-SX, and the only upgrade was more memory and a different color scheme. The Alesis Strike Multipad is certainly adding to the competition, but the current models of the Roland SPD-SX and Octapad are still very popular so they might not be in much of a rush (unfortunately). Also, they might not be in any rush to add custom sampling to any new version of the Octapad as it could eat into demand for the SPD-SX. That’s all just me speculating though!

  11. Hi Connor, yes the snare uses a 1/4 inch jack. Most other snare pads will work with this.

  12. Hi Alessandro, probably the simplest way of approaching this is to hit your sticks together and manually synchronize the audio and video from there (you’d be surprised how many people use this approach to synch audio and video!). Other than that, you could use something like OBS and record both the webcam video and DAW at the same time, though setup can be tricky when it comes to ASIO. Another option post-production is to try to use something like premier pro’s audio sync, but I personally haven’t used that.

  13. Hi Jim, are you just connecting the drum set audio output directly to the amp? In that case, you really shouldn’t be getting much latency from this. Might be an issue with the drum module you’re using. In general, it should be fairly instant (you can expect a few milliseconds, but nothing major).

  14. Hey – I think the SD card needs to be 32GB or less. If yours is lower than that and you’re having issues after going the below steps, then check the specs on the Alesis website.
    Have you formatted the SD card to FAT32 format and placed your WAV files at the root of your USB key? That might be the solution.
    Otherwise, have a look at my response to Travis below to see if that can help.

  15. Hi Stuart – you’re welcome! You would just create an audio track in your DAW and change the audio input to your audio interface then press record. As long as your audio interface is set up properly and the gain knob is high enough on your interface then audio should come through. If you’re just looking to record the audio directly then you don’t need to worry about MIDI tracks at all.

  16. Hi Stuart, if you want to record what you hear through the headphones then you would need to record the audio output from the module using an audio interface (alternatively, connecting it to the line in or microphone input on your computer might also work but you would get bad recording quality from this).

    (The USBMIDI connection on the DDMESH1000 will only transfer MIDI (i.e. the equivalent of digital music notation) to your DAW where you would need to trigger sounds based on these).

  17. I have mixed feelings about the Samplepad Pro at this stage (I’m going to update the text in this article soon about that as my writeup on it is a little out of date). I’ve used it for live performances a few times alongside my acoustic kit and it did a basic job, but I really had to lower the sensitivity to reduce crosstalk.

    Tbh, I now wouldn’t trust this sample pad if you’re using it to trigger long samples, because the crosstalk could interupt things (which would not be fun while playing live). However, if you’re looking for very basic one-shot samples (e.g. claps, percussion, snare hits, etc) then it could do the job, but it’s not great.

    On the low-end level, I actually really like the HXW PD705 as an alternative budget pad (it also comes under different names… Gear4Music DD90 and dbDrums nPad) and I would trust using it on stage, but it’s gotten quite a mixed response from people (maybe bad QA or inconsistent production or something, I only received one of them).

  18. Hi Jeff, I’d recommend trying out MIDI recording if you want to get a lot of control without a massive budget. You could then trigger sounds on an external plugin on your computer that might give you the sound you’re looking for, and all you’ll need is a simple MIDI interface or USB cable. Also, drum VSTs will allow you to change the drum kit sounds later on (as well as edit the drums) and mix them on a multi-track basis without having to use up the audio inputs on your interface. For starters, you could try to download something like DrumMic’a for free. From there, you could decide if it’s worth investing in a more feature-rich drum plugin. Of course, it might not be for you, but it’s definitely worth trying out.

  19. Hi Daniel, it depends on your preferences really, they’re pretty good, but even the acoustic-sounding kits on the Octapad don’t come anywhere close to as good as Addictive Drums 2, superior drummer, etc. For proper recordings, I much prefer using a MIDI connection and triggering an external drum library as it gives a lot more control of the sounds and how you process them. It’s pretty straightforward to use the Octapad with a DAW on your computer (you can use USB over MIDI, or standard MIDI 5-pins).

  20. Hi Ben, you can load the firmware update to any Alesis Samplepad Pro model regardless of when it was released (using a USB stick). If it’s 4 years old, then maybe it already has the firmware updates applied.

  21. Hi Ben, I’ve always used more featured DAWs for multi-track recording, so I’m not 100% sure about how Audacity handles it. Though I’d imagine it could be pretty hit and miss because Audacity doesn’t include ASIO by default.

    Either way, I’d recommend getting a better DAW anyway for this, the tracks will be easier to work with and you’ll be able to mix them better.

    Although I haven’t used it personally… I’ve recently heard good things about ‘Cakewalk’ by BandLab, you could try that DAW out. I believe it’s now completely free.

  22. Hi Garry, you can start and stop phrase loops on the Octapad SPD-30 using either MIDI 5-pin cables OR via MIDI-via-USB (i.e. once you press play on the master device then the phrase loop starts). I’m 100% sure that it works for both (I’ve done it many times). Btw, I’ve only triggered via MIDI from a computer in both cases (in the case of the 5-pin connections I used a MIDI to USB interface), but I don’t see why it would be any different when using another piece of music gear that can transmit MIDI start/stop commands when using standard 5-pin MIDI connectors.

    Keep in mind that the Octapad lacks custom sampling. For that reason, the Yamaha option still might be a better one for you.

    I’m glad you found the article helpful!

  23. You’re welcome Brian, I’d recommend you check out ‘Melodics’ if you’re looking for interactive learning like that, which works quite nicely with Roland, Alesis, and Yamaha drum kits (and likely others as well).

  24. Hi Richard – No worries! If you haven’t already, maybe try to uninstall the driver and try the installation steps again… and follow any necessary steps to unblock the driver through the ‘security and privacy’ if it pops up. From looking at the instructions, if there are issues with installation, you might not be able to unblock the driver without reinstalling it. Also, do you have any other computer that you could test it with (either another Mac or Windows) that might be able to you narrow down the issue? If there’s a fault with the USB connection on the module then alternatively you could use an audio interface to record the audio instead, but that would require you to get your hands on one… probably not worth jumping to that conclusion just yet!

  25. Hi Peter, try to use the ‘Aggregate Device’ function on your Mac, which should allow you to combine the two audio inputs so both the Mic and drum inputs from your interface are both recognized in the application. I don’t have a Mac on hand to test it, but it should do the trick.

    In answer to your question over email about connecting audio from the module: The aux is only for inputting audio through the module (e.g. backing track). Once you connect the phone output from the module to the interface you’ll be able to listen by connecting your headphones to the interface. You should be able to monitor both the audio from the Mac as well as the drum set, play around with the direct monitor option maybe. It’s a pity that particular HWX drum module doesn’t have two separate audio outputs. Make sure not to set the gain level too high on the UMC22 interface otherwise the signal might start clipping.

  26. Hi Richard, you’re welcome! The Roland TD11 can transmit both Audio AND MIDI to your computer (i.e. the module acts as an audio interface so you don’t need to buy a separate one). You should be able to connect this up to your computer and set the audio input on Garageband to TD11, when you press record and start playing your v-drums, hopefully the audio should start feeding through. In this case, you wouldn’t need to deal with MIDI at all. Let me know how that works out!

  27. 😀 – fair enough, they’re not for everyone!

  28. Hi Ben – I’ve written a detailed guide on how to do this here: https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/record-electronic-drums/ – just scroll to the MIDI section. With The SD61-2 you would use a USB-A to USB-B cable for this and connect it to your computer. If you have an old printer lying around your house, you might already have one of these cables!

  29. Hi watts, if all incoming notes are being recognized in Logic as the same velocity then maybe your MIDI transform settings in Logic are set to ‘fixed’? Maybe do a bit of searching to try to change that, based on the version of Logic Pro you’re using.

  30. Hi Ben, once there’s an audio signal going then I think you should be getting a green light showing up on the front of the interface (or a red light if it’s clipping… i.e. too loud). If you are not getting that then do all the basic checks to make sure that an actual audio signal is leaving the Alesis Strike module (make sure that the master volume is turned up high, which is different than headphone volume), change the front of the audio interface to ‘line’, and make sure that the gain knob for that input is turned up high AND the master level volume is also turned up high. If that’s not working then check your cables to make sure you don’t have any issues. If you are seeing the green or red lights flashing on the front then the signal is getting to the interface, in that case, you’ll have to just make sure that you have the interface set up properly to work with Audacity…. In that case… in the top right, next to the microphone icon, change the input to your M-Audio Fast Track input and hit the record button. Hopefully it should be working after all of those checks!

  31. Yes, pretty much every DAW supports WAV files. Just drag those files on your PC into your DAW into a separate audio track, adjust the volume as required, and you are good to go!

  32. Hi Ben, you have two options for recording the audio output of the Alesis Strike Module… either just record using the main audio outputs (Left and Right) using a simple audio interface such as the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (I’m a fan of this interface). This would do the job for basic purposes.

    Alternatively, the strike module allows you to multitrack record (i.e. lots of different outputs so you can separate your drums/cymbals into different tracks, which allows you to process and mix your tracks in the DAW). In order to do this you would need a bigger interface and more cables (e.g. such as the Focusrite 18i20).

    A free DAW that comes well recommended is Cakewalk by Bandlab. I haven’t personally used it but I’ve heard it’s decent and it’s a fully fledged DAW. Audacity is another simple free option. Alternatively, Reaper is very cheap for personal use. Other than that… I’m a massive fan of Ableton Live, but something with so many features might not be necessary for what you need!

    Hope that helps,
    Mike

  33. Hi David, use the Line setting. The ‘Inst’ (instrument) setting is used for situations like connecting a guitar or bass directly to the interface.

  34. Hi Gerald, you can find the installation manual and user manual for the SD201 on the HXW website here: http://www.hxw-music.com/col.jsp?id=114 – I haven’t played the SD201 kit yet so I can’t offer any specifics on the setup of it. Probably the most confusing part to assemble on the SD201 is the drum rack… everything else should be straight forward enough.

  35. Hi, glad you found it helpful! It’s a very basic drum module, you can’t change the drum sounds or add effects on the drum module. (You can just change volumes and sensitivity). Though it has MIDI out, so you could connect it to a computer and trigger external drum libraries however way you want if you wanted to go down that route, though it adds a bit of complexity.

  36. Wow, that must have been an honor to witness!

  37. Hi, Thanks for your message.

    Electronic drum gear that is USB-BUS powered always has to include a USB cable (because it couldn’t function otherwise). Gear that can act as a stand-alone device and is separately-powered certainly does not always include a USB cable. I’m sure of that, and I live in the world of e-drums. Should they include it? Yeah, I agree with you, but I’m talking about this in comparison to other gear.

    Btw – I certainly was NOT paid to write this review by HXW!!!

    About the cross-talk issue, I already wrote in the article, “However, I can’t speak for the other users of this, perhaps there were issues with their device.”. I’m not dissing your experience, I’m giving my opinion on that topic from my experience of using the device. Perhaps the manufacturer is not releasing consistent models for this.

    Point taken though – if giving my opinion on other reviews I’ll clearly note that this is my opinion and my not reflect the experience of other users (I’ll update the text in this article also)

    Cheers,

  38. Hi Oliver, the RS40 is a drum rack I believe, what type of drum module does the electronic drum set have?

  39. Hi Paul, it all depends on how much you would want the tom pad to replicate the feel of playing on a frame drum. I think maybe a condenser clip-on microphone might be a better option using the acoustic drum that you’re already using, if you haven’t already tried that? I think the electronic tom might not work so well… e.g. if you were playing with a double sided beater like on a bodhran, then you would probably find playing on an electronic tom pad to be pretty frustrating. There are some high-end options such as the ATV A-Frame which would probably be great for this, but I’d guess this is probably way outside of the budget!!

  40. Hey – drum modules often have an 1/8″ inch AUX input that will allow you to play music through the drum module, so you could play music from your phone from Spotify, mp3s, etc. There are also drumless backing tracks that you can find online (we’ve got an article about that too) that might be useful.

  41. Hi Lukas, they’ve got 1/4″ outputs. These are usually used to connect drum and cymbal pads to drum modules. You’ll need something as a middle-man between the drum pad and your computer, either a drum module or a drum trigger module are normally used for this. You would then connect that module to your computer via a MIDI cable (either a MIDI-to-usb, or a usb-to-usb depending the features of the trigger module).

  42. Hi Ezra, it’s very much a matter of preference. If you prefer the feel of the DTX silicone pads and the internal samples then go for Yamaha. For hybrid setups, I can’t really think of any compatibility problems if you mix between a Yamaha e-drum set and a Roland SPD-SX. The audio outputs would probably be going into a mixer and mixed from there. Also if you want, there shouldn’t be any issues hooking in Yamaha pads as inputs into the SPD-SX – they all use 1/4″ connectors and most drum pads and pedals are standard (apart from hi-hats). Also, if you’re big into production, then you don’t necessarily need custom sampling on your drum module as you could just trigger your own samples via MIDI. Therefore, you could potentially opt for a cheaper drum module. Hope that all helps!

  43. Hi Mike, the Roland Dual Trigger (RT-30HR) would work perfectly for this. It recognises the drum and rim as separate hits.

  44. Hi Nghi, can you double check that same input jack with another instrument again? If there is an audio signal coming through and it’s working for other instruments then, tbh, there should be no reason that the interface isn’t recording sound!

  45. Hi Alexey – are you selecting the MIDI device of your edrum set rather than selecting ‘all midi inputs’ – that could be the problem. I don’t think that would be a problem with Addictive Drums itself.

  46. Hi Tom,

    You could just use two 1/4 inch jack cables to connect the Left and Right outputs to two channels on your tascam dp32.
    Otherwise, if you really want to get them into one track on the tascam dp32 then you could use a splitter cable as you have suggested (you could use either XLR or TRS splitter, as that tascam should support stereo TRS inputs also).

    Hope that helps!

  47. Some great points, Stephen. I couldn’t agree more! The argument of ‘cheating’ in music can be very closed-minded and can bring you down a rabbit hole. Having a good perspective is very important to make sure that you can stay open-minded and strike a good balance between entertainment and artistic integrity.

  48. That’s awesome!!! Thanks for sharing that, Randy. From watching interviews of Dave, he seems like a great guy. It must have been great to meet a hero of yours and had your expectations met or even exceeded!

  49. Hi Daniel, the samples are quite good (e.g. the ‘tight drum kit’ preset sounds good) but if you’re picky about what samples to use for recording then it’s probably better to go for a pad that allows for custom sampling.

    Also, if you want to get really realistic acoustic drum sounds or if you want to go for a large variety of acoustic kit sounds out-of-the-box then the Octapad also probably won’t be for you. Good alternatives would be the Roland SPD-SX, Yamaha DTX Multipad, or the Alesis Strike Multipad (check out this page: electronic drum pads.

    On the other hand, if you’re using it as part of a home studio, then the Octapad is great MIDI controller for DAWs (e.g. drum racks in Ableton Live) or for use with music plugins such as Addictive Drummer 2. MIDI recording might be the better option to go for anyway!

  50. Hi Michael, The Roland Octapad SPD-30, in my opinion, is the best as a stand-alone kit replacement, and you can hook it straight to a PA or drum monitor. It has good sensitivity (though not as good as mesh or silicone pads on electronic drum sets) and has plenty of options to add extra pads/triggers/pedals (it’s also compatible with installing a hi-hat pedal) on the back of it. There are plenty of built-in kits and sounds (e.g. the ‘Tight Drums’ preset), however, many of which are not actually acoustic drum kit samples (they include world music, effects sounds, synths, etc). If you’re looking for a proper acoustic drum kit replacement, it might be a better bet to buy a good electronic drum set instead, or get a sample pad that can allow for custom sampling (e.g. the Alesis Strike Multipad or the Roland SPD-SX) and put a bit of work into loading really good drum samples based on the style and genre that you’re playing.

    If you’re looking to replace the feel of your drum set, then you’re not really going to get very close if you’re only using the hardware of the electronic drum pad to be honest. However, you could get a separate mesh snare pad and connect it to the octapad for example, if you want to do drum rolls with a bit more sensitivity, etc.

    Hope that helps with your decision!

  51. Hi Mike, Macs can handle multiple audio interfaces easily enough through the ‘Aggregate Devices’ feature. Follow these steps: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202000

    If that’s causing you trouble, you could alternatively just run the audio output from your drum module through the audio interface (if you have enough inputs).

    Hope that helps!

  52. Hi Kris,

    Yes some in-built speakers would be useful for it. Though, you could just hook up a small portable speaker to it, you might need an 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter to do that.

    I’ve sync’d the clock on the SR16 with other devices before and it worked pretty well. Maybe try to troubleshoot with some methods online to reduce MIDI latency.

    If you’re currently recording the audio from the SR16 through to your DAWs, you could alternatively use it as a MIDI controller (i.e. trigger a drum rack on your DAW instead of using the onboard sounds).

    Apologies for the delay in responding to your first message, I’ve been pretty wrapped up dealing with stuff over the last few weeks due to the crisis! :S

    Regards,
    Mike

  53. Hi Kris, if you’re planning to produce your own music in those genres then I personally would recommend learning to program your own beats through the DAW instead of using something like the Alesis SR16. Garageband would be good enough, or even better, go for a more feature-rich DAW such as Ableton Live, Logic, Cubase, etc… When you program your drums via audio samples or MIDI notes in your DAW then you have a lot of flexibility with your music.

    I would recommend getting a MIDI drum pad for Garageband and hook that into your laptop via USB. That would allow you to physically tap the beats.
    You could also get some drum VSTs if you’re not happy with the sounds on Garageband for example.

    If you really want to get a hardware-based drum machine then something like the roland tr808s is an absolutely fantastic option that would give you a lot of room for creativity, but it costs a lot more.

    Hope that helps!
    Mike

  54. Hi Peter, the issue here is likely that the TD-6 MIDI notes are not mapping correctly to the MIDI notes that your Garageband drum kit expects. Have a look at this video for more information on how to remap MIDI in Garageband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlD-GABPwso

    hope this helps!

  55. Hi Sashko, you’re very welcome! The Roland TD-1K only has a foot-switch style bass drum pedal. You would need to get a kick tower and a double kick pedal. But yes, the module is certainly capable of supporting double kicks.

  56. Hi Gordon, I’m glad you found the post helpful! For playing on open mic nights, it’s always good to go with the ‘less is more’ approach! You’re right, people often have different expectations of drummers than other members of a band, some will expect you to be able to just play along with anything.

    As an example: For a rock song… if you don’t really know the song, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with simply playing a few simple beats behind the music and slowly trying to lock in with the bassist. This even applies to advanced drummers.

    If you have good timing and you lock in with the music you won’t be noticed that much, therefore you probably won’t look silly. Though if you try to over-complicate matters then it might not sound so good!

    Nice tip about sitting on the drumstick! 🙂 If it gets too uncomfortable, you can always get a cheap drumstick holder that can clamp on to the hi-hat stand or other piece of hardware!

    Hope that helps, sorry for the delay in responding!

    Mike

  57. Hi, do you have a 1/4 inch instrument cable connected from the L/Mono Output on the back of the Alesis Nitro to one of the audio inputs of the USB Interface and the volume all the way up to the top on your Alesis Module? If that doesn’t work and your the Focusrite interface is definitely working properly for other audio signals then there might be a problem with the main L/Mono output on the Alesis Module, so it could actually be a hardware problem.

    It might be worth double checking if the interface is still working with other signals such as guitar, bass, etc. Sometimes there can be driver issues with interfaces, or you need to turn it off and on, etc.

    If you hook in a set of headphones or an amplifier into the L/Mono output on the back of your Alesis Nitro can you hear anything? (even at a low volume) If you’re getting an audio signal from this then the Alesis Module is not the problem. In this case it could be related to your interface, cable, or recording software setup.

  58. Hi Una,

    If you’re using the multi-scale drum, the notes vary based on the scale you’re using. The notes for each scale are under in the ‘Tuning System’ section on the article.

    Mike

  59. Hi Nick, the Pintech RS5 is basically just an encased piezo which triggers based on vibrations. I can’t say for sure how sensitive it will be on the Hegagon rubber pad, but I think it would do a pretty good job. Any more expensive triggers would probably be overkill for it anyway.

  60. Hi Dave, yes I’ve used a hi-hat pedal with the SamplePad Pro and it worked as expected. The Alesis DMHat Pedal is their recommended pedal to use, so this should definitely work.
    On the hi-hat input on the back, make sure it’s switched to Variable.

    Also, change the mode of the pad to ‘HAT’… this is some info from the user guide:

    1. Strike a pad or ext. trigger.
    2. Move the cursor to the MODE area by pressing the Cursor Up or Cursor Down buttons.
    3. Then press the Cursor Left or Cursor Right buttons to select the mode.

    When a pad or ext. trigger is in HAT mode, striking this pad or ext. trigger will trigger one of the sample
    assigned to the 5 hi-hat locations of each kit (HAT OPE, HAT MID, HAT CLO, HAT CHK, HAT SPL). The
    position of the hi-hat pedal (sold separately) will determine which of the 5 currently assigned hi-hat
    samples of the kit will trigger.

    Hope that helps!

  61. Hi Diego, glad you liked the review! Are you sure all the MIDI notes aren’t coming through Ableton? If you hit a any pad, does the little yellow light flash at the top right of Ableton? If so… The MIDI note is coming through, though it’s probably not mapping to the note you want. You can choose the MIDI notes that you want each pad on the Samplepad to correspond to (https://c.getsatisfaction.com/alesis/topics/samplepad-pro-and-midi-recording) – might take a bit of trial and error. Also, maybe the max4live device by abletonDrummer might be of use: http://blog.abletondrummer.com/free-max-for-live-devices

    Hope this helps!
    Mike

  62. I think this is mostly a debate about semantics really. I wouldn’t argue with your definition of technical ability in relation to Ringo. However, I would class pocket and feel more in the category of ‘musical’ ability rather than ‘technical’, which I very much agree with you is more important in the art of music. That said, timing is a vital foundational technical skill for a drummer (and any musician), that he is well known to have been strong at, so I’ll give you that!

    Thanks for the contribution,
    Mike

  63. Hi Dave, I found the kick sound pretty normal from that module. I think it’s worth checking against the shop’s model, or even compare against the kick sound of electronic drum sets.

  64. Hi Guy S. – thanks for your comment. Ringo certainly had a big stamp on drumming as a whole.

    You seem to have taken me up as a Ringo-hater, which I certainly am not!

    I take it from the fairly heated tone of your comment, that you didn’t even read the first few paragraphs of the article. At the start of the post I’ve talked about the importance of tasteful performances and ‘less is more’ rather than amazing chops. So I think we’re pretty much on the same page here.

    My original wording in the article was meant to get across that Ringo was a very influential drummer, despite that fact that he didn’t have amazing chops (nobody can argue that Ringo had amazing technical ability). I’ve updated the wording a bit to make that clearer.

    Though – even if I was a Ringo Starr hater, the argument of ‘Show me a video of you doing better’ is absolutely daft. If you were a knowledgeable sports fan and commented on a player that’s not playing up to their professional standard, people probably wouldn’t be saying ‘show me a video of you doing better’

  65. Hi Jean – could be latency problem. A few things to try:

    1. Try to change the audio buffer settings (e.g. to 512 samples)
    2. Test it by bringing the track to a blank project and see if you’re still getting the problem. If not, then it could be a CPU issue and your computer can’t handle the load of all the tracks based on it’s current hardware/software configuration. I’ve left some pointers in this article for improving CPU performance for audio.
    3. If you’re using windows, make sure your either using a Asio4All driver or using the ASIO driver from a dedicated audio interface.

    Hope this helps!

  66. Hi Thanasis, yes I used Roland pads and they worked well. Pretty much any pads will work because they generally use the same standard. Hi-hat pedals and any pedal that acts like a sustain pedal generally work fine for the hi-hats (Though it initially wasn’t working for me because of my settings… just make sure to set the input to ‘variable’ in order for it to work properly).

  67. Hi John, yes all of the sets above can be used in a left-handed setup. You just need to swap around the positions of the module/drums, and some parts of the drum rack (arms/clamps) in certain cases. The instructions are not always great for how to do this, but it’s easy enough to figure out

  68. Hi Jurgen, that’s great – exactly what you need. Thanks for sharing as it could be useful for others!

  69. Hi Jurgen, you’re very welcome, I was also thinking you should try the complete opposite and set each pad to the lowest sensitivity and see if that works (as it could reduce the overall dynamic range, which is what you’re looking for here, as opposed to increasing dynamic range for harder hits – I can’t fully remember this particular detail from the model!)… This would come with the benefit of probably eliminating crosstalk between the pads. Also worth trying out changes in the velocity curve settings too, you can change both.

  70. Hi Jurgen, have you tired turning the individual sensitivity setting for each pad to the max? That may be the best you can do – I don’t think you can disable velocity completely on the Samplepad Pro unfortunately.

  71. Hi Alberto, you’re very welcome! MIDI only allows you to transfer note, velocity, tempo data, etc, so you can’t transfer audio. In order to record sounds for the module, you would have to do this through an audio interface. The Pearl Mimic Pro has quite a few outputs so if you wanted to multi-track record then you would need an audio interface with enough inputs.

    One thing you could do if you really want to record through MIDI triggering… record the MIDI from the Pearl Mimic Pro to your DAW, then fix up the MIDI if required, play and route this back to the Pearl Mimic Pro as a MIDI input, then record the sounds of each of these tracks from the audio outputs to your DAW via your audio interface.

  72. Hi Mike, possibly the ATV AFrame Electrorganic Frame Drum? That’s a very interesting, almost square shaped electronic pad that’s usually over the price you’ve mentioned: https://amzn.to/2SF8f5E

  73. Hi, it’s not particularly difficult to transition to an acoustic drum set after this – the beats and rudiments your learn all transition to the acoustic set the same way, all the drums will be pretty much in similar positions. However, the main transitions would be simply in the feel of the acoustic kit, the general dynamics of playing an acoustic set, and the subtleties of sound on it (e.g. rim shots on the snare drum, the variety of sound from the cymbals, extra subtleties to ghost notes on the snare, etc). These are great parts about playing an acoustic set and I think it’s an enjoyable transition.

  74. Hi Sean, there are a bunch of different companies online that do it, just search ‘triggered drum lighting’ or ‘led drum lighting’. They likely all use LED lights with a trigger (e.g. piezo trigger). There might be cheap options available, but if not, and if you wanted to do it really cheaply, you could possibly make one yourself using an arduino (with a piezo sensor and LED lights), although there would be a bit of a learning curve to that!

  75. Hi – unless the pad isn’t responding as a result of a setting (sensitivity, volume, sample turned off, etc), then I would expect that this is a hardware issue. Is the problem present on every kit? If you can connect it to a computer via MIDI, does the pad trigger a MIDI note (that might give an indication if the pad is completely dead, of if there’s a software or setting issue that’s not triggering the sound)? It’s probably worth contacting Alesis support to see if they can provide a solution.

  76. Nice article Elijah – thanks for sharing.

  77. Hi Mario, yes you can add your own samples via a USB drive. It can start and stop individual loops, so you could assign a sample to a section of the pad, hitting that section of the pad would start the loop and hitting it again would stop (alternatively you could use gate mode where it only loops for as long as you keep your hand on that part of the pad). However, it doesn’t offer phrase looping like on the Octapad for example. You could use this in conjunction with a loop station though.

  78. Hi Pablo, yes I think it’s a good option for DJs and producers if you’re looking for basic drum sampling, MIDI etc. As I’ve mentioned, there’s a few quirks, but you can get past them. If you’re looking for more advanced features on a bigger budget then the likes of the Alesis Strike Multipad, Roland SPD-SX, Octapad, or Yamaha Multipad are some other good alternatives.

  79. You’re very welcome Dan!

  80. Hi Dan – glad you found the article useful! Yes, the Focusrite USB-A to USB-B cable will both power the audio interface as well as transmit the audio data to your computer (the cable will most likely come with the interface).

    Yes the TRS cable will plug into the front 2i2 inputs (The 2i2 inputs are dual inputs, so you can input 1/4″ cables OR XLR cables into each of them).

    Also, yes you can plug in headphones into the audio interface to monitor what you’rep playing. Though the headphones input is also 1/4″, so if your headphones use a small connector then you might need a 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter. Just flick the ‘direct monitor’ switch and adjust the headphone volume knob at the top-right of the interface.

    Have fun recording!

    Mike

  81. You’re very welcome David!

  82. Hi David – have a look at this video to understand what I mean about MIDI channels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBFI039TZg

    The ‘Polyphonic key pressure’ or ‘polyphonic aftertouch’ is a separate message along with the MIDI notes that would get sent which could transmit data for cymbal ‘chokes’ or hi-hat pedal pressure. If this is the case, perhaps you could MIDI Map this data in Garageband:

    I’d suggest you read up a bit more on the manual for your ATV drum set, and watch some tutorial videos on how MIDI works in Garageband.

    Good luck!

  83. Hi Prakash, a few options to try:

    – There might be an issue with the sample rates or file formats of the samples. Have a look at the response I sent Travis above for supported file types.
    – Save the samples to your computer, reformat the SD card, and put the samples back on the Card.
    – Try another SD card. Perhaps the SD card is faulty.
    – Otherwise, it might be worth contacting the place you purchased the sample pad from, or Alesis support.

    Hope that helps!

  84. Hi David, Yes, the hi-hat is usually the area that you will find most problems when trying to record via MIDI!

    Does your ATV drum module have the option to transmit the MIDI to different channels? This could be possible because you’re using USB-to-USB MIDI connection. This could be the ‘Individual’ MIDI setting on your ATV drum module, where the Hi-hat would come through in channel 6. You could then set up a different track in Garage band where the input is only that channel. It might be easier to work with the sound in Garage band from there.

    Different drum module manufacturers have their own hi-hat protocols, so they can transmit this differently. For example, they might transmit the ‘open/close’ setting of the hi-hat separately, or transmit different notes depending on how open or how closed the hi-hat is.

  85. Hi Roman, thanks for sharing your opinions. Custom sampling loading time is a drawback for sure, particularly with bigger samples. Signal level on audio output was never a problem for me tbh, so that wasn’t a problem for me for live playing, but who knows how consistent that is between models. Worth checking if you still have a warranty on it, just in case you got a defective item. But even if not… the build quality, menu system, and overall sound certainly aren’t as good as higher end Roland/Yamaha pads… but it can come in at almost one third of the price of some of these. Though for people that are gigging seriously or doing serious recording, it’s probably worth waiting to invest in the higher end sample pads.

  86. Hi Matt, check the monitoring options on the track in the program you’re using. Perhaps it’s currently set to Monitor ‘In’, which would only monitor incoming MIDI notes.

  87. Hi Travis, my main tips would be:

    Play around with sensitivity settings, and if you’re playing this live then do it with your live performance in mind. i.e. you might play pretty quietly when practicing and then smash the pad when playing live. This particular pad can lose a lot of dynamics if you set the sensitivity too high, so keep that in mind. Though it can be a trade-off between sensitivity and potential cross-talk (though this might only be the case in certain older models, I’m not sure about that), so test that a bit before performing!

    The audio files that are supported are “16-bit, mono or stereo .WAV files. Sample rate of either 48K, 44.1K, 32K, 22.05K, or 11.025K.” There are plenty of audio utilities to convert your files to these. You can put these on an SD card and make sure to put them on the root folder of the card.

    Regarding samples, try to keep the sample sizes relatively small if you’re planning on switching kits often between gigs. Big samples here can mean relatively long loading times between kit changes, but it’s fine if you can plan for it.

    Switching between kits when using only the internal sounds is very fast, so that’s something else to keep in mind.

    That’s about it, I hope that’s some use to you!

  88. Hi Bcleff! A few things to try out:

    Have you hooked up any other MIDI gear to the computer that might be conflicting with it? If so, try to just use the TD8 connection by itself.

    Have a look at the preferences of your DAW, if possibly, try to disable other incoming signals if they are enabled.

    Do you have any other MIDI controllers to check if this issue is also present on those too?

    Make sure you’re using the correct audio drivers (e.g. ASIO4ALL for windows, if you don’t have a dedicated interface).

    Play around with the buffer size.

    Try it using another DAW if you have another one installed to see if the problem is still occuring. Otherwise you could get some free MIDI monitoring software for your computer and check to see if you’re getting sustained notes or regular notes on these.

    Hope this helps!

  89. Hi again Fabe, if it’s a problem with monitoring latency in Studio One then check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e87Q-7qmmAA – there’s some extra settings that might not be enabled. Otherwise, it might be worth checking out some forums relevant to your hardware/software configuration as people who’ve used these tools more might be able to give you some additional help on it, as the e-drums themselves probably aren’t the problem in this situation. Hope you get the latency issues sorted. If you do figure it out then please do write a comment below as it might help others in future, as I know these issues can be really head wrecking! Thanks, Mike

  90. Hi, there are plenty of great drum forums and resources around, such as drummerworld. Also check out some drumming related facebook groups and sub-reddits, which often include experienced drummers that are interested in helping and supporting. It’s also worth checking out are there any of these groups for your country or city, as you can become part of a more local community of drummers.

  91. Hi Fabe, have you checked the difference in latency when connecting via the USB compared to the MIDI 5 pin connectors from your ddrum ddti? I’ve noticed some serious discrepancies on these using other gear.

    Also, if you’re trying to record to Studio One, have you enabled low latency monitoring? If you’re not sure, it’s a Z icon below the master fader that turns blue or green when it’s enabled.

    Do you get similar issues with other midi controllers or is it just related to the ddrum device here?
    Could it be a computer performance issue for your PC, are you using the correct drivers, etc? (if so, check out my response to Roman above on optimizations suggestions).

  92. Hi Josh, they don’t have 1/4″ outputs, but you could get a 3.5mm to 1/4″ cable for pretty cheap. The recording quality will not be amazing from these though, you would get much better quality by using a good drum plugin on your computer and triggering the sounds using the MIDI USB connection from the roll-up kit, you would also be able to tweak the sound a lot more (but there could be a little bit of a learning curve if you haven’t done it before). Check out our article here to learn more: https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/record-electronic-drums/

  93. Hi Roman, are you using the correct Focusrite driver in the DAW? It might sound like an obvious question, but if not, then that would make a big difference. Other than that, I know latency like this can be really annoying… Ableton has some settings to help with this (https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209072249-When-to-use-Reduced-Latency-when-Monitoring-) and there might be something similar in Cubase. I know recording can add some extra CPU load, so for starters, just make sure that you’re excluding any unnecessary effects and recording dry. If you’re using a windows machine, then make sure it’s optimised for audio processing: https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207355205-Optimising-your-PC-for-Audio-on-Windows-10 – Sorry about the delay in responding! Hopefully that will give you a few more things to try out!

  94. Hi Brian, you would need to get the drum samples from your module into Garageband. MIDI itself doesn’t transfer audio, rather just the notes/velocity, etc. Either you would need to record your drum samples one by one (using the audio output as described in the article) and chop the recordings into playable samples (it would take a bit of work), or it’s possible that the samples from your module might be available online for you to load into your DAW. Hope this helps!

  95. Hi Ian, we haven’t tried the Alesis Turbo mesh module with a double kick unfortunately, but you should be able to swap out the Alesis kick pedal with a KD-9 as it should use the same audio jack connection. Two potential issues… if the module can’t handle a lot of kick strokes in quick succession, and if the sensitivity is too low for the kick pad. The only way to know it out is test it, because it’s not an officially supported feature by Alesis on this kit. One thing you could try is to connect the kick drum cable into another pad (e.g. the snare drum pad) and try to do fast strokes with your sticks, that’s one way of testing it!

  96. Hi Timothy, Alesis SamplePad models are compatible with most brands and types of external pads and triggers. From what I remember, the 1/4″ cable is included with Roland Kick triggers and you can hook this into the trigger input of the SamplePad 4. Alesis SamplePads have had some issues reported with low volume levels of external triggers, but the output of these was always loud enough for me. Hope this helps!

  97. Hi Sue, the RockJam Roll Up Drum kit is available on Amazon.com (USA) but it’s not available on Amazon.co.uk – I’ve noticed that the original manufacturer is white-labeling this product to other companies, therefore you’ll see the exact same model under different brands. We haven’t tested the others but I’m pretty sure that the following product on Amazon UK is either the exact same as the RockJam MIDI roll up drum kit or with very slight differences: https://amzn.to/2QFjOLt – The style, buttons, inputs/outputs are all the same. Hope this helps! Mike

  98. Hi Richard, I’m glad you found it useful! Yes you can use the KD-120-B with the TD-11KV. You don’t get much better than this kick tower really. It’s really sturdy and the mesh head is tunable, so you can tweak it to your liking. After that, maybe putting a bit of oil on moving parts of the double pedal might help or perhaps you will feel like upgrading that later too. Mike

  99. Hi Rose, I feel your pain! Stage fright can really kill your groove. When anxiety kicks in it can tend to override everything else! Also, it forces you to second guess and really mentally process every hit, which can really kill your groove.

    If you’re really stuck in a rut on stage, I think it’s best to get back to basics: breathe, count, and keep your playing as simple as possible (if your style of music allows!).

    It’s possible to practice to become a bit more resilient to interruptions (either actual or imagined ones) by training for it. If you don’t practice to a metronome, then try it and count out loud while you are playing. This can really focus on your timing. Try to get a good rhythm with your breathing also while you are doing this. Try to really relax while doing this, you can try to use this as an ‘anchor’ that you can try to return to while on stage.
    If you get into issues on stage, try to mentally go back to the exercise above. Simply focusing on these might help get you back on track.

    I often play to a metronome live, although it was a lot more difficult to play when I got started… this can actually end up saving you if you go way off track. Try to focus solely on your click and gravitate around the 1st beat of the bar. It can also start to get you back on track.

    Also, if you’re getting very overwhelmed, try to imagine yourself floating. It sounds a bit silly but it can really work for people. If you like to swim, imagine yourself floating underwater. Focus on your breathing while doing this. It can actually significantly reduce your anxiety.

    Lastly, just keeping working on it. You will probably have some setbacks along the way, but as long as your stage fright is getting slightly less-intrusive every time then you are going in the right direction. As mentioned in this article, two steps forward, one step back is still in the right direction!

    Good luck and I hope this helps,
    Mike

  100. The Tama HP200PTW Iron Cobra 200 is a really nice option. You would still have plenty left in the budget and Iron Cobras have had a very strong reputation among double pedals for many years . You could also consider the Tama HP600DTW Iron Cobra Double Pedal (here’s a link to it: https://amzn.to/2r2xbqw), which is a better version, and it should come in under your budget, so I think that would be a great one to get. Apologies for the delay in responding, I’ve been getting a lot of junk messages recently so I didn’t spot this!

  101. Hi Piyush, the Roland Octapad SPD 30 is my first choice in this article, so I would recommend that unless you really need to load your own custom samples. There are already a lot of great on-board samples and options to process the sounds. Apologies for the delay in responding!

  102. Hi Riley, I’m glad you found the article useful! All of these pads are standalone electronic instruments with on-board sounds so you just simply hook them up to an amplifier, PA, or headphones to hear them via standard instrument cables (1/4 inch cables).

    The necessary internal software is already included on them, in certain cases there are optional firmware updates which you can install through a USB connection but if you’re buying a new model it will likely contain the most up-to-date firmware.

    All of these drum/sample pads contain MIDI connectivity so you can connect them to a computer and trigger external sounds such as a drum rack on music production software for example. However, in order to run or record the actual audio output (on-board sounds) of your drum pad through your computer you would need an audio interface (e.g. focusrite).

    I hope that answers your questions, enjoy using whatever drum pads you get.

    Mike

  103. Hi Katy, the Roland TD-11-K uses the KD-9 kick pad, which fits most double bass drum pedals, so the good news is that you don’t need to get a Roland specific one for this at all. I’d recommend getting one that’s at least as good quality as the Tama HP200PTW that I wrote about in this article, because very cheap or low quality double kick pedals can be very frustrating to play.

    Mike

  104. Hi Piyush, I recently wrote an article about some of the best online drum lesson resources (both free and paid), so that could be a good place to start! The foundations of drumming, i.e. drum beats, timing, rudiments, stick technique, etc, can all be practiced on an Octapad the same way as you would play a drum set, therefore any of those lessons would be applicable for you. The Octapad also has a wide variety of percussion sounds, so you could also try out some different beats and phrase looping around that. If you’re really interested in getting into learning drums with the Octapad, then I would highly recommend that you also get an electronic kick pedal and a hi-hat pedal in order to extend the Octapad into a mini electronic drum kit. This would give you a lot more freedom to play interesting beats. Hope this helps! Mike

  105. Hi, yes, the SamplePad Pro is a decent option if he’s limited on space. However, if he wants to really learn drums then I’d recommend getting pedals as well, as otherwise he will only be able to play with his hands.

    These would effectively turn it into a mini electronic drum set (you just hook them cables from the pedals into the back of the SamplePad), so it will be the best of both worlds. I’ve used the SamplePad in this way myself and it’s pretty decent.

    I know these add a bit of extra expense, but if your budget is really limited then the SamplePad Pro by itself will still be a good starting point. After that, he could get a kick pedal later as then next most important thing, and then a hi-hat pedal after that.

    Kick pedal (almost any cheap one will work)
    https://amzn.to/2PDicCl

    Hi-hat pedal:
    https://amzn.to/2DLyN0g

    For sure, it will be able to communicate to Garageband via MIDI connectivity. There are two options at the back, using either a USB printer type cable (this one for example: https://amzn.to/2PH7ElF) or using a 5-pin MIDI cable. He might already have one of these options.

    There are also other options for recording the audio out of the device, so you can point him towards https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/record-electronic-drums/ for more information if he’s not sure. I’m sure he can look into that later himself!

    Hope this helps and good luck with your gift shopping!

    Mike

  106. Hi Sneyk, the Alesis Burst kit uses the Alesis DM6 drum module so you might be able to swap out the kick pad for a kick tower (which you would need to purchase separately), though I haven’t actually tested this kit. If you haven’t purchased it yet it would probably be better to buy an electronic drum set that already has a kick pad tower included. Hope this helps! Mike

  107. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Dave!

  108. Hi Brad, the cable that attaches to your kick pad looks like a standard 3.5mm connection (e.g. the same type of connection that you hook into the audio jack of your phone or laptop). If you think that’s the case then you could try using an adapter
    to a 1/4 inch connection (https://amzn.to/2NJWV9a)… These are handy little items to have anyway. There still could potentially be issues but it’s worth a try! Hope this helps – Mike.

  109. Hi Brad, could you take photo of the wire connection to your kick pedal and link it here via tinypic.com or something similar? Is it detachable? I think there are different versions of that model, and it will help me better answer your question.

  110. Hi Rohit, although the Nitro Mesh definitely wasn’t designed for double kick, I think the module can handle them fairly well. Though the kick tower is small enough…. You might have to tweak the sensitivity a bit. Tbh, some people are ok with the experience of using the stock kick pad for double pedals, others not. Alternately, you can change the hi-hat to a bass drum sample, though it’s not the smoothest option.

    There are two options on the back to expand the kit… An additional crash and an additional tom. Any pad or trigger should work no problem with them.

  111. Hi Andy, yes this will work nicely. For connecting, just connect the L/R outputs on the crimson module to the inputs on the Roland amp using standard 1/4 inch instrument cables. It’s a great electronic drum amp… You can tweak the sound a bit with the basic EQ knobs, e.g. increasing the Bass for bigger punch.

  112. Hi Alan, unfortunately it does not save multiple presets or kit choices (though it does keep the last pad arrangement you’ve used when you turn it off and on), so you would have to manually choose the options you want if you want to have multiple arrangements for live performances. Alternatively, there are a bunch of other choices on our guide that can perform this function: https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/best-electronic-drum-pads/

  113. Hi Tommy, glad you found the article useful! The best pads that have very fast switching speed and also allow custom sampling are the Roland SPD-SX and the Yamaha Multipad. I’d personally pick the SPD-SX unless you’re looking for pads that you can play with your hands also. The octapad doesn’t have custom samples, and the Alesis Samplepad Pro is too slow IMO if you’re looking for fast speed switching live.

  114. Hi Sean, we haven’t gotten a chance to review the nitro mesh kit yet unfortunately, but I’ve heard that the mesh heads are quite similar to the mid-range Alesis mesh heads, except that the nitro mesh ones are quite a bit smaller. A bit of speculation… but based on that, they still should be pretty decent. However, I really don’t think they’d be that comparable to the likes of the more expensive Roland mesh heads, but it would likely still be an upgrade compared to rubber heads. Apologies I can’t give a more comprehensive answer yet!

  115. You’re very welcome Shawn, I’m glad you found it useful

  116. Hi Dawn, I think sample pads are a great option for percussion type sounds. E.g. the Octapad comes with a lot of very decent percussion and world music samples and kits.

    How it can replace your current set-up is really a matter of preference, so I can’t say for sure.

    There will definitely be differences in feeling and dynamic of the acoustic vs electronic, and there are pros and cons to both. Going the electronic route can offer you so many different options, but if you play primarily on your set of congas for example then you may be able to get more expression on your acoustic set.

    It’s really up to you to experiment. One option could be to use a hybrid type set-up, i.e. keep some acoustic instruments and then have a sample pad. E.g. if you kept your acoustic bongos, then you could still use the yamaha multi-pads with your hands, as they are responsive enough for this.

    Alternatively, going completely electronic can be very liberating and can really help you focus on building out more sounds! In fact, it could really work with the styles of music you’re playing.

    Good luck!

  117. Hey! By ‘Alesis SamplePad’, I assume you’re referring to the old legacy 4 pad samplepad. Personally, I would go with the SamplePad Pro for the following reasons: it has more pads and would allow you to play more sounds on the fly. It is newer technology, and the old samplepad had some anti crosstalk issues reported (if hitting two pads at the same time, it might stop one of them from being triggered). However, both models do allow you to load your own samples via an SD card, however I believe the old model only allowed mono samples, whereas the SamplePad Pro also allows stereo samples. If you have a very low budget, you could try out the original samplepad to see if it works for your needs, however I think it’s not a great option for live performances. Hope this helps!

  118. Hey Don – that’s awesome, having the MalletKey in your setup must be great!

    I understand your point about the iPad sample player. I always feel it’s a lot better to have hardware to work with, particularly when you’re in the middle of a performance.

    I think the Alesis would be a suitable for your use, particularly if you’re mainly looking for a lot of one-shot or secondary samples to add to your performance. It’s pretty inexpensive for the features you get.

    Keep in mind, there are a few quirks to get used to. You particularly don’t want to make sure not to accidentally trigger those Shrek sounds at the wrong time 🙂 I think you can get used to these after playing around with the pad for a while though.

    If you haven’t already, check out my more detailed review of the Alesis pad here, as I talk through its pros and cons: https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/alesis-samplepad-pro-review/

    If you’re going to use the sample pad very heavily then it might be worth investing a bit more in something like the SPD-SX straight away, but it seems that you’re looking for a cheaper option.

    It can take a little bit of time to switch between kits on the SamplePad Pro (depending on how big the samples are). That’s something to keep in mind if you have a lot of samples to switch between during your performances. However, that shouldn’t be a problem to work around.

    Hope this helps!
    Mike

  119. Hi Lani,

    FYI, Some people manage to get a double bass pedal working with their current Alesis Kick towers. I know they’re quite small, but if you have a double bass pedal where you can get the beaters quite close together you might be able to play around with the sensitivity settings a bit. Otherwise, if you do have the budget for it, upgrading the kick tower to something like the KD-9 would still be a better option, particularly for better sensitivity.

    I’ve still yet to try out the SD350 actually, it could be a good option but its reviews are quite mixed. I think it has a standard quarter inch cable leading into the kick so you should be able to replace the kick tower. For the SD350, you’ll definitely need to get another pedal if you’re going the double bass route as that’s a single integrated pedal and it would likely be a bit clunky anyway. It might be worth checking up some video reviews of that simmons kit. Cheaper mesh heads might not be as quiet as the more expensive ones like the Roland VDrum mesh heads.

    Hope this helps!

  120. You’re very welcome Lani, glad I could help!

  121. Hi Sandra, if the set needs to be very quiet then I would always recommend going for mesh heads over mylar heads, even though they are a bit more expensive.

    However, generally mylar heads can be easily replaced with mesh heads, so you could potentially swap them out later. Though, it’d be less hassle and expense to just go with the mesh heads straight away if you can.

    I hope that helps!

  122. Hi Sampaul, it’s very easy to get up to speed with any electronic percussion or drum pad (The Yamaha DTX pad included). There are plenty of resources online, but the best thing is to just get your hands on one and start playing around with the different sounds. Also – with the Yamaha option, you can play with either sticks or your hands. Hope that helps!

  123. Hey, I wrote a response on this a while back but it must not have saved! Apologies for that! 🙁

    You might have already made the decision on this, but even so, this might be useful for other readers.

    The Yamaha DTX has 3 actual external pad inputs. 2 of those pad inputs support either a dual zone pad, or two separate pads each. You could expand this to 5 external pads in total if you don’t want dual zone capabilities, but you’d need to buy splitters for the inputs.

    In the same way, the Roland SPD-SX has 2 inputs, but you could input 4 pads into this if you have splitters. Therefore, the SPD-SX could actually suit your needs in this case.

    Thanks!

  124. You’re very welcome Shea! I’m glad you found it helpful!

  125. Hi Ken, selecting components from different vendors can be a great option if you know what you want. Electronic drum components like pads, cymbals etc, tend to be compatible with e-drum brains of other vendors (however you should certainly do some research into the particular components you are getting to be sure of it).

    The pearl mimic is supposed to be fantastic, if you have the budget then it’s well worth considering. Yamaha gel pads are also excellent, and some people prefer them to mesh heads, it’s a matter of preference really. If you’re planning on cherry picking individual components, if you have access to a local drum store then I’d highly recommend trying different ones out, as a lot of it is down to personal preference. What might work for people on message boards might not be the optimum choice for you.

    A negative of using different components is that they would probably come out as more expensive.

    Btw – not every component in e-drums will be totally compatible across the board, this is particularly the case with hi-hat pedals.

    The Roland Octapad (SPD-30) and the Yamaha DTX Multi-12 can be extended to use some other pads and a hi-hat pedal, but you’d only be able to make a mini e-kit out of them. The same goes for the Alesis SamplePad Pro, however, I wouldn’t personally recommend that as your main drum-brain. The new Roland SPD-SX wouldn’t really work as a drum brain.

    Hope this helps!

  126. Hi Jaison, it depends on your needs. I think it would do the job nicely for some relatively basic drumming/percussion and playing samples if necessary.

    The Alesis Sample Pad Pro is fine to put through a PA or amplifier for live situations (I’ve played it live myself). This sample pad has a few quirks that you should definitely practice and get to grips with beforehand, but you should be ok once you understand these (For example, it takes a bit longer than you might expect to switch between kits, and once you figure out how to adjust the sensitivity of the pads then that should eliminate the cross talk issues).

    Also, keep in mind that the device is not silent, and hitting the pads with drum sticks can cause some audible tapping sounds in close-up and very quiet musical situations. This may or may not be an issue for you, depending on the size of the room and volume of the choir.

    In my opinion, if you’re planning on doing some intricate drumming with a lot of dynamics then this may not totally suit your needs.

    So it’s not a definitive answer, as I said it depends on your needs. Though the Alesis Sample Pad Pro has a lot of features and it is a decent one to start with either way, because it’s much cheaper and you can invest on more expensive Roland or Yamaha models later on if really necessary.

    Hope that helps, if you have any other questions then please let me know!

    Mike

Electronic Drum Advisor
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